cross-posted from: https://lemmy.zip/post/56521103
The all-electric Dacia Spring now starts at just €11,900
I don’t know why people are saying a 200km range is bad. Most people I know don’t drive more than 25km to work per day. Surely even 100km is perfectly fine for a daily driver.
My brother had an 80km range car for years and was perfectly fine.
Is it just that it’s not competitive at this price?
I don’t own any car but I would not buy anything below 300 km advertised range.
It’s not that I drive more than that in a single trip often but I can’t charge at home or work and it would be annoying using a public charger more than once a week.
Sure fast chargers exist but they are way to expensive for everyday use
Exactly, most people just go to work, Kaufland and to visit grandma who most of the time is 100km away. You’re not buying a Dacia Spring to go from Lisbon to Oslo, you’re buying it as a car for daily use.
Thank you for considering Lisbon in your thoughts. It’s very appreciated.
Because propaganda has convinced people that a car is useless if it can’t go 300+mi AND only take a few minutes to be ready to do it again. Range anxiety, even though they only fill up maybe once a week and could easily charge an ev at home with just a standard outlet not even a special charger and keep up with their actual real daily use
Dacia Spring product website (DE)
To take advantage of the full €5,000 off, buyers must sign a purchase or lease agreement by February 28. On top of that, the car needs to be registered no later than June 30.
Sounds like a clear out to make room for new stock.
Most of the people in this post complaining about the range obviously aren’t EV owners. I’ve just done a multi-country road trip covering thousands of km. Taking a 20 minute break every few hours is hardly arduous, you’d be doing something similar on your own anyway.
I agree. You have to take a quick stop anyway to go to the toilet, relax your muscles, eating a snack. So you’d still do it, while your car is quickly charging.
I would love this as a commute car (if it was available in the US). I do have to drive about 80km round trip but it’s only 2-3 times per week so it would be fine. The only caveat would be top speed which would be fine if it’s in the 100 kph range.
Get yourself a used Nissan Leaf. About the same price, does that range. I’ve had one as a commuter car for 10 years. It’s perfect. Only maintenance is new tires and wiper blades. It’s basically paid for itself in reduced maintenance and fuel prices.
It’s a really low price, but it’s also an incredibly shitty car with terrible safety scores.
And terrible range. Advertises 300Km per charge. You’re lucky if you get 200
Not everyone lives in the US. In Germany, 70% of all distances traveled by car are only 10 kilometers or less.
200 km range in the summer means 100 km in the winter. i live in finland and i frequently need to drive 100+km away from home. nearest ikea is 130 km away, relatives living in other cities, etc. i imagine it’s the same for a lot of people, not just in the US.
US still just averages 65 kilometers per day.
Don’t assume everyone replying in a way you don’t agree with lives in the US. I am speaking from experience living in the Luxembourg/Germany area…
Even Germans take vacation to visit relatives and vacation homes. A range like that easily doubles a 200Km drive’s travel time.
It’s good if you don’t long-distance travel by car, or if you use it as a secondary car for work commutes. Then it’s perfect.
Hilarious.If there was any European who is closest to the American car ethos, it’s got to be the Germans. Those autobahns, man. :)
I knew that this argument would be the second possibility. German Reichweitenangst is strong with you, too it seems.
I’d really like to get this car but most people have told me it’s too risky for me, anyone else has any input?
I can’t load at home or work, but I could load at a station accessible by foot a few minutes from my house, as well as once a week when I go shopping for about 30-45 minutes.
I only have to drive twice a week, 90km per day two days in a row, with no opportunity to load in between, but I could load the day before and the day after. People have told me it’s too risky especially in winter I might not make it on that distance.I have this car since 2024. The previous generation. I can answer some more questions if you wish.
I charge at home. Sometimes at DC when I do some longer trips. Longest was 300km at once. Had to do 2 stops 30 minutes each.
Normally in the summer I get 2km per 1% of battery. That is 11kw/h while driving 110km/h on the Autobahn. During winter it goes down to 1,5km per 1%.
That means I can safely drive 160km in one hop and the charge with some bigger buffer during summer. 100km during winter.
That is for a long trips. I use this car mainly to move around my city. If I wouldn’t charge it at home I’d charge it during weekend groceries. 40 minutes charging on any DC charger would bump it up to 90% easily. So groceries time.
Apart of this this car is a banger. A classic car with no bullshit digital stuff, but electric.
There are a lot of reasons that wouldn’t fly in the US:
- too tiny compared to the behemoths around. I’d be afraid
- doesn’t say speed but a lot of “city” cars have city speed limits: most people use high speed roads at least some of the time
- as average new car prices pass $50k, maybe people are less likely to have multiple cars than in the past
- legacy manufacturers only build smaller runs of higher profit trims, and have successfully bought protection from competition
When I was married, I did always have a small cheap commuter car, like a Civic, and ensure my ex had the big car that’s also More comfortable on road trips. But I’m no longer married so can’t justify multiple cars. My one car does need to serve the occasional road trip, so I’m more comfortable with my current 300+ mile range.
But there continue to be more full sized pickups on the road and those are what I notice with worse and worse driving.truck guys used to have pride in their driving skills but now they’re some of the worst and just seem arrogant that “I’m bigger than you so can do what I want”. I don’t even think I’d feel safe in my civic anymore and certainly not my old Miata , much less something smaller.
I’m really fascinated by the Slate truck’s simple and modular concept. If that succeeds I’ll be tempted to get that as a second car even with its limited range - it would add capability, a spare resource, and range is plenty for commuting
There are a lot of reasons that wouldn’t fly in the US:
I don’t think that Dacia target market are the US
as average new car prices pass $50k, maybe people are less likely to have multiple cars than in the past
You’re quoting this on a car selling for about $15k?
Speed limit is > 70mph.
The city car only models tend to be technically quadricycles. This is a proper car.
