Get a hobby

Mbin is right there

Unfortunately the golden zone is golden for a reason, it’s very attractive and therefore doesn’t remain in that range for long. It’s a tipping point

Note that for most old-school forums, 40K MAU is absolutely top of the pile in activity. The only reason people expect these MAU on lemmy is just because reddit has it. And don’t forget that moar users, moar problems.

Anarchist/Environmentalists get debanked: I sleep.

Epstein-club child-rapist billionaires get the slightest inconvenience: Real Shit.

I feel it’s changing positively, as instance admins and our tool-sets mature, and more and more people are becoming permanent residents as they’re either permabanned on reddit (so they have no alternative) or they recognize the value of a system that is not and cannot be controlled by a corporate entity and they US billionaire interests behind it.

However I’m also concerned that our yet small size has protected us from truly existential issues like dedicated spam and propaganda orgs, especially those who would utilize GenAI to be more covert. I’ve already published tools like the fediseer to help prepare for this, but I really hope to see more people per-emptively getting ready for this. I see way too many doe-eyed admins firing up instances without a care in the world, open registration, no captchas, no botnet protections etc and they either burn out and close shop after a few months of firefighting, or get defederated, or they have to re-learn a painful lesson the rest of us did.

This does give me an idea, we do need a more holistic “So you want to open a threadiverse instance” guide to give such pointers to new admins and way to get support from others. Hmmm…

There’s a lot of tankies on other instances as well. As you said, they jump to be able to agitate with other. Doesn’t mean that we’re “influenced” any more than most. Quokka is part of the FAF for crying out loud and they’re as anti-tankie (from the left) as it gets. I think y’all are just having cognitive bias by noticing only the times that tankies write, but not all the time we have anarchist perspectives. Literally some of our top posts are anti-authcom.

Honestly, most of this is driven by a few haters, who are salty we don’t ban every tankie on sight and a few haters who are salty we’re principled against Zionism and try to divide us from the rest of the threadiverse as a result.

Mate, every time you mention our instance and our comms you’re just shitting on it…Hobbyless behaviour…

On the negative side, dbzer0 has shifted more right wing over time, mostly due to influence from the tankie triad.

Absolute nonsense from someone with an ax to grind.

haters gonna hate (on random threads)

It was too much like reddit so you went back to reddit which is “the same” but without api access and third party apps?

That’s the answer right there. The lemmy personal customization is quite flexible. You can even make it behave like an old-school forum if you want.

Has a sense of capitalistic entitlement in it. You feel that you deserve the product of art but don’t respect the people who do put in the time and effort learning how to make it enough to properly compensate them for the time that they spent learning the profession.

This is really not true at all. Me and others not having the time to learn to draw (and compose and direct and act and and and…) doesn’t mean we disrespect those who do. We just want to make something to enjoy for ourselves. And yes, those who don’t have the time, also (typically) don’t have the money. Again, it’s a classist argument to claim that everyone has either the time to learn, or the money to commission.

Likewise, it’s infuriating to see privileged takes of “oh just spend a few hours here and there”. Motherfucker, there’s people who do not have a few hours here and there. There’s people who work 2 jobs, who raise children alone, who are primary caregivers for others. They’re not taking anything from artists by generating an image they like in the 1 minute they have available.

I am of the opinion of, let people enjoy things that bring them joy. I have no issue with GenAI if it’s for strictly non-commercial personal use, especially when it’s using open-weight local models who’ve already been trained. I do think that GenAI work should not be able to be monetized at all, but I don’t make the rules. But people moralizing against random enthusiasts because “just learn to draw bruv” is never going to convince anyone or achieve anything. However convincing people to not support massive corpos will.

Has a sense of capitalistic entitlement in it. You feel that you deserve the product of art but don’t respect the people who do put in the time and effort learning how to make it enough to properly compensate them for the time that they spent learning the profession.

I’m the exact opposite. I love services recommending new artists and songs I would have never stumbled into on my own

Hear hear! I love me the brainz projects. Their player is a bit buggy still but so so good to avoid being locked in

And yet, again, the instance has communities for every single big tech genAI model.

Where do you see that? As far as I see, we only have comms for stable_diffusion, which is an open-weights local diffusion model. I couldn’t find any corporate comms like OpenAI or Copilot or whatever. If we did, I don’t know if I’d delete them tbh, since they’re not explicitly against our CoC, but it would be something I’d be concerned and raise with the instance if they would be too “bootlicky”. But nevertheless, we do not at the moment.

And where do they get the training data for AI Horde?

The AI Horde is using open-weight models only. We don’t train them. We just use them once they’ve been trained.

PS: We are also anti-copyrights, so complaints based on copyright violations don’t fly with us.

You know what “democratized” art and made it freely accessible to everybody? The pencil.

I often see this vacuous argument and it never convinced tbh. It assumes everyone has enough time to train on making art, which most wage-slaves undoubtedly do not. It’s an inherently classist argument to assume everyone has the free time to master any artistic skill.

And this is why I say that it depends. Horde AI could be great - so long[…]

This is an argument against capitalism, not against GenAI itself. You’re arguing that because capitalism is bad and exploits workers, a tool that can also be used to further exploitation needs to be opposed. But we say it’s not the fault of the tool being used for exploitation, it’s the fault of the system allowing exploitation. I.e. If you remove the capitalist system, this argument against GenAI is moot. And we’re very much anti-capitalists in our instance. It’s a similar argument against piracy as well (and we’re also pro-piracy btw). I.e. sharing media is not a problem in a non-capitalist society, in fact it’s a positive. It’s only a negative due to capitalism.

We actually never asked to share beliefs. Just favorite anarchist/FOSS/pirate/tool and two small anti-LLM riddles

Amusingly, both of those (pro-genai (non corporate) and non-tankie anti-capitalists) is the kind of crowd my instance has a lot of ;)

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