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  • j5y7@sh.itjust.works
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    4 hours ago

    Being fat is objectively unhealthy and in fact a chronic disease. It brings with it high blood pressure, chronic fatigue, higher mortality rates in younger people, diabetes, higher rates of heart disease, blood clots, arthritis, strokes, poor sleep, and a hundred other things. And it’s in fact a chronic disease that can be cured. Without drugs.

    There’s a reason the first thing they do at a doctor’s office is weigh you. It’s a simple metric that is a strong predictor of overall health.

    I’m not saying this as an indictment against fat people. I’m not saying it’s okay to fat shame. I’m saying this as a simple fact that being fat is unhealthy and has real consequences. I am also saying it is morally wrong to say it’s okay being fat. Saying being fat is okay teaches people that health does not matter and they go on to live shorter more painful lives.

    I don’t think I’m smarter than you. I think you’re over thinking this.

    • orioler25@lemmy.world
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      I think it is unironically very funny to assert something is real just because it’s normalized in medicine. As we all know, medsci is historically very conscious of social and material conditions and is not subject to the distortions of the classes of people who have access to that authority, and no new research is relevant ever. I guess that means black women really do feel less pain, trans people only started existing forty years ago, and skulls can actually teach us about racial intelligence (people were arguing for phrenology until the late twentieth century). That you’re arguing this during a period where eating disorders are very visible in popular culture is also just too perfect. Could you then, cite any articles or studies you’ve engaged with to build your oh-so-well-informed-and-underthought worldview? I have just a few off the top of my list:

      The Obesity Myth: Why America’s Obsession with Weight Is Hazardous to your Health, Campos, 2004.

      Yamawaki, Niwako, Christina Riley, Claudia Rasmussen, and Mary Cook, “The Effects of Obesity Myths on Perceptions of Sexual Assault Victims and Perpetrators’ Credibility,” Journal of Interpersonal Violence 33 (4): 662-85, 2018.

      Ramos, Salas, X, M Forhan, and A. M Sharma, “Diffusing Obesity Myths,” Clinical Obesity, 4(3), 2014.

      Pollack, Catherine C, “Characterizing the Prevalence of Obesity Misinformation, Factual Content, Stigma, and Positivity on the Social Media Platform Reddit Between 2011 and 2019: Infodemiology Study,” Journal of Medical Internet Research, 24 (12), 2022.

      Lindeman, Tracey, Bleed: Destroying Myths and Misogyny in Endometriosis Care, 2024.

      https://www.ama-assn.org/system/files/a23-refcomm-d-annotated.pdf (2023 American Medical Association House of Delegates statement against the use of BMI).

      There’s some social and medical criticisms of the concept of obesity as well as how it is measured and medicalized.

      This is all of course besides the fact that, regardless of whether obesity is understood properly, its presence in this original joke is in fact still fascist and still functions to normalize the fundamental values of fatphobia as they intersect with transphobia, racism, misogyny, and ableism. “I think you’re over thinking this,” is a staple phrase of fascism. Maybe you should fucking think a bit.