CrocodilloBombardino

Google maps for navigation in unfamiliar places.

i really want to switch to OSM apps (and I have comaps) but (1) it’s not nearly as good at understanding addresses (e.g. “123 first avenue” when it has my gps coords instead of “cityname, First avenue 123 zipcode”) and (2) doesn’t have nearly as many businesses mapped (e.g. i want to type in “Joe’s Restaurant” instead of the address bc i haven’t memorized it)

im not arguing sapience, im examining your definition of sentience, which was self-awareness. my question was how we distinguish between mimicry of a sentient being and actually being sentient, with an analogy that a recording of a sentient being is a perfect mimicry but isn’t the same as having sentience.

similarly, how do we know that an llm is self aware and not merely a machine that returns clever combinations of recorded sentient beings? what is the equivalent of a red dot mirror test for an llm?

“sufficiently adaptive” is doing a lot of work there. i can “mimic” a thought by copying and pasting text that someone else wrote. it wouldn’t mean that I understood it, could reason from it, connect with it on an emotional level, or incorporate it into a worldview

your music simile misses the point in a similar way. a record player can play music just as well as the artist who recorded the record, but we don’t say the record is the same as the musician.

what proof do we have that llms are truly self aware and not merely returning text that mimics the self awareness of the humans who made the materials they were trained on?

anarchism is good because:

• it is robust . it doesn’t rely on leaders remaining true to their ideals despite the corrupting influence of power, avoiding assassination, staying in power despite attempts to topple them, and transitioning power successfully to another generation of leaders who fulfill the same criteria.

• it is truly democratic . no one has any more power than anyone else, everyone is (or can be) involved in decisions that affect them

• it is flexible . communes and communities can look like whatever is both (1) possible in the area they exist in and (2) possible for their members to agree on (while remaining anarchist… if you agree to have a king, it’s not anarchism anymore lol)

• it is ecologically sustainable . the end of capitalism, private property, and wealth accumulation means resources are used only as needed by the community and not to generate profit.

• it promotes human thriving, community, and meaning in life . the end of capitalism means no more working all week to make someone else richer. the end of the state means you can’t be ordered around by power-hungry officials and cold bureaucracies who don’t know you or care about you or your community. you work on a combination of things that (1) you find meaning/enjoyment in doing (2) improve or maintain your community (3) provide variety to your life, instead of the same job every day, if you prefer. you make decisions with your neighbors that really affect your community.

define sentience

consent would only matter if they were sentient

there should not be any such thing as “citizenship”. creating classes of people with different rights is just a way to exert power over all of them. Everyone deserves to have all the rights and there’s no reason why they can’t have them, other than political choices.