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  • I don’t see what tourists helping the local economy would have to do with anything.

    Well yes, that’s precisely my point. I read the tourism aspect as largely irrelevant, as I’ve tried to get across multiple times with the examples of switching tourism out for race or for heat. It could have been loads of things.

    There were several upvotes in all comments where I said anything like this so it’s not just me.

    Discussing vote totals is weird. But seeing as you’ve introduced it, I would remind you that not everyone uses the vote system as you seem to. I myself have upvoted your comments as I would anyone that continues a discussion. I wouldn’t downvote someone for having a different opinion, that would be a bit childish for my tastes.

    Further, a handful of upvotes does not make your view correct and any dissenting opinion incorrect. If that were the case, you must be wrong as I only see one downvote on that parent comment we’ve been going back and forth about. I wonder who that could be. The surprising thing about a comment thread more than a few deep like this one is that evidently people other than you and I are still reading this far.

    Anyway, I apologise for having such a long exchange. I’d thought we were having a decent discussion, not arguing semantics. It is worth noting this is sort of a byproduct of text based discussions. Had we done this verbally we’d have been concluded in ten or fifteen minutes.

    Enjoy your weekend and your contributive upvote.



  • See I think we have different interpretations of the parent comment. You’ve read it as a critique of tourism and consider it “obviously all this was”.

    I read that same comment and see the pondering thought of ‘why not move if you dislike it so much?’ in the same way I would if this were a story of a tenth generation Texan being angry about the heat and expressing that anger via some violent measure.

    The comment doesn’t read as ‘tourism is the problem’ to me at all, which has been why I’ve described it as a comment on motivation and see it as a valid discussion point. Even when I reread it and play around with where emphasis might be in the sentence if it had been spoken aloud and not written, it feels like a stretch to say it’s either pro or anti tourist.

    Sort of a flaw with quick off the cuff comments in a text based medium, but oh well.






  • Yes I agree. I didn’t imply an SUV is somehow better than a few bikes. My comment wasn’t an argument for cars nor continuing car dependancy, only touching on a benefit from their manufacture - negatives often do have silver linings.

    In a non car dependant future, I’d still expect the buses and ambulances and whatnot else to be electric.


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    Assuming people get electric vehicles when their combustion cars reach end of life and not just trading in a four year old SUV for its electric variant, the I think it is.

    Ignoring the ideal wherein privately owned vehicles decrease over time, of course. Continued development of EVs will be a benefit in terms of battery technology and motor efficiency, among other things.


  • I agree, though there are buses and trucks in those panels, and I’d hazard a guess that if the national fleet of vehicles went electric, the gross weight limits might get bumped up a touch.

    If I’m remembering right the United States federal limit is 80,000 gross, but there’s also a per axle specification. If electric long haulers started becoming more common, I could see the limits being bumped for the whole vehicle, while adding an extra axle or some such.








  • Brennan Lee Mulligan touched on this briefly in a podcast (1:03:24) and gave his own example about taking some of books off his bookshelf and what he does with them. It’s difficult to grapple, and nuance is always going to play a role.

    Everyone does some things right and other things wrong. Generally it takes repeated or extreme action in either direction to taint a person in the minds of others. I doubt many people have prints of Hitler’s artworks framed and hung, but loads still listen to music by Michael Jackson regularly. It’s all about context, I think. Trevor Noah’s recent example is pretty similar to this topic. A slur in one place can hold no meaning in another.

    It’s very much a spectrum of our own beliefs, our joys, and the things we find repulsive. Like spilling black paint on a watercolour rainbow. To some it might go in the bin, others might still see the beauty in what remains. So long as you don’t hang it on the wall because of the black stains, I’d say you’re fine whichever you choose.