Cultural relativism aside, I’m sure we can agree on “terrible” if we talk it out. I’m not asking for a “well X country is worse than Y country, so, Y country isn’t THAT bad”. I’d say for this discussion we can go as far back as 1800 for “past” as I’m currently convinced there isn’t a country with a perfect track record going back even that short a time.


According to the genocidal center, the only evil in the world is opposition to genocide.
Seeing how you get downvoted for calling it out, and Optimal gets upvoted for saying genocide enablers are good… Yeah.