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schnurrito@discuss.tchncs.de to Privacy@lemmy.worldEnglish · 18 hours ago

A Redditor Criticized ICE. Trump Is Trying to Unmask Them by Dragging the Company to a Secret Grand Jury.

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A Redditor Criticized ICE. Trump Is Trying to Unmask Them by Dragging the Company to a Secret Grand Jury.

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schnurrito@discuss.tchncs.de to Privacy@lemmy.worldEnglish · 18 hours ago
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An ICE summons to get the user’s identity failed. Advocates worry the move to a grand jury signals an escalation of the war on dissent.
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    Wtf is a secret grand jury? Is it anything like a nazi tribunal?

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      A grand jury is by definition secret

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grand_jury

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        Actually not by definition maybe but by custom

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      The US has a long history of secret court systems

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        Got any reading material?

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          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Foreign_Intelligence_Surveillance_Court

          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lavabit

          The thing that pisses me off the most about these courts is that they completely violate the idea of a fair trial where you are innocent until proven guilty. The Judges in these courts seem to be openly biased toward government entities and the trials they oversee are mostly for show. They deliberately set up the defendant to loose by doing crazy things like denying a defendant access to legal council.

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          Established: October 25, 1978

          Because of the sensitive nature of its business, the court is a “secret court” meaning its hearings are closed to the public. While records of the proceedings are kept, they also are unavailable to the public, although copies of some records with classified information redacted have been made public.

          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Foreign_Intelligence_Surveillance_Court#Secrecy

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