cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/45437770

I’ve been thinking a lot about the Fediverse ALT issue.

Some people are annoyed by posts without Alttext, & others get reminded¹ to add it.

The core question is: How can we improve accessibility?

Proposal: ☑️ Add a user filter to hide media posts without AltTag ☑️ Reduced engagement on hidden posts would encourage adding Alt text ☑️ People who need accessibility wouldn’t have to encounter unlabeled media

If this gets traction, I’ll open a Mastodon GitHub issue (maybe on others too?).

¹ https://mastodon.social/@madeindex/113996311493021102

  • Snoopy@tarte.nuage-libre.frEnglish
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    8 hours ago

    Adding posts with no alt text to a predefined category or tag (such as Mastodon’s #Alt4Me) sounds like a reasonable alternative.

    Yes you are right. :)

    No CCP style shit please, we already have enough of that with Piefed

    I don’t see why we should support content without alt text. There is people with various disability

    I’m offering to void the post visibility :

    • the post won’t receive upvote, so it won’t reach the top of your timeline
    • user won’t be able to crosspost them.

    I’m deaf and i think we should all do an effort to make the web accessible. Everyday, i have to adapt to your world.

    People can give a small fraction of their time to improve accessibility. But you are right it maybe too harsh, we should find a middle ground that invite users making the web a place place rather them punishing them.

    Long explaination on piefed score

    There is pro and cons using lemmy or piefed. Both have a different stance on moderation and offer a different experience.

    Lemmy doesn’t check downvote or users with bad reputation. How are you able to act with toxic users ? For example one downvoting a lot and the other one that post terrible thing thus get lot downvote ? Is this good for your community ? I don’t think you will enjoy interacting with them.

    Piefed score was requested by most admins and mods. It help us creating good community, our main job is creating a place where people enjoy sharing their experience. There are 2 scores :

    • attitude : it calculate the ratio of downvote/upvote. How do you react when people have lot negativity ? Most of us are around 70%. If you downvote a lot, that’s not a good behaviour. There are few users or bots that downvote a lot. their attitude score is around 20% something like that, it is low. It removes the ability to downvote until you upvote and reach a threshold. So it invite user to use other tools (filter) to improve their timeline instead of voting.
    • reputation : that’s the upvote you receive. Posting meme don’t boost your reputation. Why ? Because of karma farming. Let’s say i post terrible things, and i receive lot downvote. Meanwhile, i post fun meme and get lot upvotes…

    So it just give us a general idea on users and improve community ambiance.

    Futhermore, you can’t just take the scoring system alone. Those features work together :

    • mods can remove downvote per community. I removed them in my communities.
    • filters : you can filter keywords, communities, instances and users.
    • report. It is more efficient, i prefer it over the automod that work well.