Belazor

This is actually something that intrigues me quite a bit. If you’re good at one part of management you get promoted, until the point where you’re only okay. We are so obsessed with title and status that it’s better to be an average “Executive Vice Manager” than just “Vice Manager” or whatever, and we foolishly tied compensation purely to job title.

This is the most sane take I’ve read in this entire debacle. Between arguing the semantics of attestation vs verification and whether we need five hundred forks and PRs, I’m glad to read this.

The biggest mistake the original PR did was not make it more clear it’s not directly because of the laws themselves, it’s to support higher level systems that may want to or need to comply. Systemd is no more complying with any present or future laws than a keyboard manufacturer is violating the law if the user uses it to type racially motivated hate speech.

I’m gonna challenge two parts of your post;

1. Not participating in something does not make someone anti that thing. I don’t play or watch sports, I’m not anti sports. I don’t participate in or watch operas, I’m not anti opera. Etc. Saying “anti-veganism” implies vegans face the same kind of persecution as minorities do.
2. It is not the responsibility of the consumer to fix supply chain issues. You can believe there is no way to “ethically” raise livestock for meat and that’s fine, but what happens at “meat factories” and slaughterhouses is not the responsibility of the buyer any more than you are responsible for the child labour that went into the t-shirt you’re wearing.

Since you were so overly aggressive in your post, I’ll permit myself a tiny snoot of “whataboutism”; do you care the same amount about the clothes you wear? The electronic devices you use? The energy you consume? The non-animal products you consume?

Every. Single. Thing. you as a modern person buy has supply chain issues somewhere, and taking such an aggressive stance on one thing but not the others would make someone a massive hypocrite.

What I’m ultimately saying is this; everyone has their own line in the sand for what makes someone a morally good person. Or rather; what supply chain issues are “acceptable”. For you, that line is clearly the consumption of animal products. For others, it’s different. It may be more extreme than you, making you the same horrible monster in their eyes as meat eaters are in your eyes. Are they wrong? What makes your particular line the One True Line?

Believe me, I understand the fire you feel about this issue because I feel the same way about other issues. I understand that for you, it’s the most obvious and easiest thing in the world to be a vegan. This is not true for everyone, and it does not make them “fucked in the head”.