This could be huge for vehicle design as a whole.

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    I think it’s irresponsible of the Verge to tout an electric motorcycle’s range as “up to 600km”. It’s absolute fantasy.

    I have an electric dirtbike and a gas bike. My gas bike has an 11.1 L tank and can go about 360km per tank.

    The highest actual range I’ve seen on an electric motorcycle is about 100km of mixed use (highway and city).

    Solid state batteries have the potential capability of having almost double the power density as lithium ion. So approx 200-300km (maybe).

    Pretty solid but doubling THAT is just dishonest and in no way going to happen. You’re claiming to have more power density than internal combustion. That’s just straight up dishonest.

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          3 months ago

          The 20kWh is the low end battery which they rate at 350km of range. The high end battery is 33kWh

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            3 months ago

            Yes, assuming a linear scaling, 33kWh would get you 506km with some percentage available.

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              They did still have 7% left though. So more like 540km… And it’s actually 33.3 so we get another 1% which brings us to 545… with almost no degradation over time or from running from 100% to 0% or in hot or cold weather. So I’d still say pretty darn good.

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                Adding the extra weight of the battery will reduce the range but more importantly going 12mph is not a way of rating a street legal vehicle… it’s like bragging about a laptop having a 30 day battery life when it’s in standby. Drag is a function of velocity squared which means that going at even 45mph you are experiencing 14x the drag and at 60mph it’s 25x the drag

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                  3 months ago

                  The batteries are actually lighter than the Lithium batteries in there previously. But yeah, we can put them in the same category with most EV makers when it comes to overstating range.

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      3 months ago

      They have been trying to make the hubless wheel a futuristic thing for so long it’s technically retro now.

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      3 months ago

      Pulled the CC data from downsub, asked AI to summarize, then reviewed the CC to make sure it was accurate.

      It’s mostly fluff centered around data about a couple of new packs and claimed ranges.

      20 kWh Pack

      • Range: 350 km
      • Charging power: Up to 100 kW
      • Adds 200 km of range in 10 minutes

      30 kWh Solid‑State Pack

      • Range: 600 km on a single charge
      • Charging power: Up to 200 kW
      • Adds 300 km of range in under 10 minutes

      Claims to be largest motorcycle battery of its kind

      SO they’re decently large, can charge quickly, I’d be a bit surprised if they were getting those actual ranges in real-world scenarios.